Comments on: The Four Freedoms https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/ Unlucky in Cards Tue, 22 Aug 2023 23:30:24 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9-alpha-60134 By: I Love WordCamps! | Matt Mullenweg https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-595759 Tue, 22 Aug 2023 23:30:24 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-595759 […] brushing shoulders with techno-anarchists, all brought together by a common hope and belief in the four freedoms of open source and the mission of WordPress—to democratize publishing, put the best tools in the world in the […]

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By: WP20 & Audrey Scholars | Matt Mullenweg https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-595209 Sat, 27 May 2023 22:10:20 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-595209 […] None of us knew what we were getting into when it started, but we had a shared conviction that the four freedoms of the GPL combined with a mission to democratize publishing was something worth spending our time on. There […]

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574575 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:06:51 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574575 In reply to rogerwilliams459414674.

I haven’t heard that in a while — Facebook, WordPress.com, Wikipedia, Yahoo, and many more of the top sites in the world rely heavily on PHP, so I think most people now feel if it’s good enough for those, it’s good enough for them.

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574574 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:00:44 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574574 In reply to The Sanity Inspector.

There’s nothing to say that coders can’t enjoy the fruits of their labor, in fact in open source the projects often grow far beyond what it ever would have if it was just the efforts of a single developer or company.

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574573 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 21:58:08 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574573 In reply to Johnny.

I don’t see any reason why not.

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By: WordPress is just kind of great | Chris Thilk https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574569 Fri, 31 Jan 2014 14:31:22 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574569 […] via The Four Freedoms | Matt Mullenweg. […]

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By: TrhAckTor https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574564 Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:29:35 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574564 In reply to Kyle Alm.

Thats the Version I started with too. I guess thats the point: WP reached the necessary UserBase very very early and due to its awesomeness it stayed there since then. I really enjoyed reading this short bio.
Thanks for sharing 🙂

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By: Onur https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574557 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 11:21:47 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574557 Hi, Mr. Mullenweg !

With WordPress, we found a chance to express ourself in web to the tons of people.

I first created my WordPress blog in 2009 @WordPress.com, after that I realized the power of it and moved to a host with my content.

Since that day, I enjoyed writing and expressing my skills at my blog and customizing it with free plugins and themes in a huge freedom.

Many thanks to you, to every contributor and every free software people for this.

Also we are surely thankful to RMS for the FSF movement.

You both are heroes for me.

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By: Know Your Rights: Blogging in College | art predator https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574556 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:09:09 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574556 […] In a blog post based on a recent talk Mullenweg gave in Las Vegas, he quotes  President Franklin D. Roosevelt pointing out that “As men do not live by bread alone, they do not fight by armaments alone.” Roosevelt made this point just before declaring war on Japan during World War Two, and argued that everyone in the world needs: […]

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By: MarcD https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574549 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:42:34 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574549 Inspiring article. Now let’s try these freedoms for business contrats:

1. The freedom to create business contracts, for any purpose.
2. The freedom to study how the business contract works, and change it so it applies to your business as you wish.
3. The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor.
4. The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions, giving the community a chance to benefit from your changes.

Our legal world is still fundamentally inefficient, the way software was before Open Source allowed us to reuse code. Contracts live in the hell of Microsoft docs wiith colored tracking and many revisions sent back and forth to the point where you get lost.

But there is one guy somewhere who came up with a brilliant way to render legal docs from other legal docs that can be shared and I really hope that the WordPress story you share will repeat itself in the legal world. Law is code, and it should be managed as such.

If you want to know more check out https://github.com/HazardJ/Cmacc-Mediawiki

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By: Chris Heuer https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574541 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:06:54 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574541 First, as you know, I’ve had great respect for you since you were, as us older folks are want to say, just a wee lad – well, at least before your 21st birthday, and I believe we discussed some of this the night you turned 21 too. You had potential and you worked hard to realize it. Despite early and ongoing success, your compass has remained true. Reading this now, I am struck by how much of that potential you have manifested and am excited by a future in which there are more people like you, inspired by you and extending your world view into all they do. I am one of those people in many ways, having spread your insights about software, about the world we could be living in and about how we can live on this big sphere together. Thank you for all you do, and for putting together terrific prose such as this. Yes, code is poetry, but your words are so often poetry too.

I would like to extend your remarks here in a few ways, or at least to make the attempt. Actually, it turned into a very lengthy reply that will need to see the hand of an editor and posted over on my own blog, but let me try to summarize a little here since your post really inspired me.

Your respect for the tens of thousands of people and organizations who make up (and extend) the WordPress ecosystem, who make their living from this ecosystem, can not be under appreciated in an analysis of its success. While it’s not my day to day reality as it once was when I installed and managed several WP blogs every month, WordPress remains a large part of my life, so I have direct knowledge of its power, and of the power that the community imbues in it. What I see as the true power beyond the free software philosophy is only hinted at above, but I believe should be more directly acknowledged.

The success should be as much attributed to the system and governance you put in place that supports and reinforces a set of shared values that aligns people together in a way that melds self interest with collective interests. Of course this is inherent in Stallman’s freedom’s. In particular his use of these words/phrases:

“change it”
“as you wish”
“help your neighbor”
“giving the community a chance to benefit”

These principles, and the success of the WordPress ecosystem, are based on the fundamental principal that people are respected for their contributions, however small or large. That everyone, even a commenter, has something of value to contribute. Further, that everyone is unique and has a unique view or needs in how they communicate. More importantly, the system of governance and the structures for collaboration enable others to extend and expand the ecosystem, intrinsically increasing the value available to everyone else. This in essence is the core of the principles that form the basis of our imperfect union here in the United States, that all men (and women) are created equal, and equally deserve these freedoms, so long as they do not harm or unlawfully impinge on the freedoms and rights of others. WordPress, in its spirit, in its strategic goals and its day to day operations is an exemplar of how things could be in direct opposition to traditional command and control hierarchical models in such a way that people are empowered and trusted to do the right thing, and as a result, the vast majority do. We give others our trust, and the vast majority prove they are worthy and give us their trust in return.

While I am not currently building an open source core as you have done here with my new startup, one day it may be, or at least parts of it will be for sure as embrace the open Web and ensure we easily integrate into everything. The ability for any organization to do so is dependent on the nature of the market need and many other factors, which may enable the specific approach to be successful here and not successful when applied to other contexts and markets. Regardless, the success is demonstrative of the future of work, and indeed the future of society in which I soon hope more of us will live. Where we are all aligned with each other instead of in opposition with each other. Where companies sit on the same side of the proverbial table as their customers and partners. In fact, I see it as a world where the tables do not have different sides, but instead are round with only one side, just as we gather around watering holes to drink up life and around the camp fire for warmth as peers, as colleagues and as human members of the same team.

With the advent of the BarCamp movement, and then the rise of social media as a mainstream phenomenon and now the rise of the collaborative/sharing economy, we’ve born witness to and helped shape the birthing of a new world order. As Mary Meeker and others have pointed out, this is the time to re-imagine everything. I do mean everything, including the nature of work, the structures of organizations and especially how we think about value creation. I hope that all organizations, large and small, new and old, for profit and non-profit are able to wake up and seize the opportunity presented by the emerging reality you are showing to be not only possible, but profitable as well.

It is in this way that WordPress is a prime example of what Michael Porter means when he talks about creating shared value, in the process capturing profits that are more then just numbers in a financial audit, but accrue to the benefit of the community. If you haven’t seen it yet, check out his TED talk and you will see how business is not innately evil as some might want you to believe, but that profits can actually be magic.

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By: olia lialina (@GIFmodel) https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574540 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:32:57 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574540 Dear Matt
Thank you for your great essay.

Please allow me a critical remark: if you want to defend ideals of free software, you shouldn’t attack the term “user”. Because the user’s existence and respect to the role of user is half the battle for free software.

You are wrong in assuming that this term comes from proprietary software. “User” is widely and respectfully used in free software and means the one who is running the program. And originally “user” doesn’t connotes addiction. It means competence, knowing the thing you are using and what are you using it for. Comparing computer users with junkies is exactly the rhetoric of the proprietary software market, who needs “people” and “customers” to sell their obscure stuff.

You may want to read my Turing Complete User essay for more pro-user arguments. http://contemporary-home-computing.org/turing-complete-user/ also available as a 20 min talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxK-Djf1s5Y

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By: The Sanity Inspector https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574538 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:47:26 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574538 I’m a non-techie end user who probably has no business weighing in on this matter. But I wonder if and when a pay model will evolve where coders can both enjoy the fruits of their labors and have their product made freely available, without a single player swallowing the bulk of the market.

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By: hexmode https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574535 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 16:56:30 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574535 rms developed his 4 freedoms in the 80s, not the 90s. http://mobile.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3717476/Interview-with-Richard-Stallman-Four-Essential-Freedoms.htm

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By: Johnny https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574534 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:35:10 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574534 It would be great to know Matt’s thoughts on how software will change ecommerce. Sure, ecommerce websites can be built using WordPress, but could this beautiful code base be applied intrinsically into every commerce transaction on the planet? Can it reach the speed of the twittersphere?

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By: t0rnad0 https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574532 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 12:25:20 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574532 Really awesome article Matt! I just wanted to thank you for creating WordPress as it’s opened up many new opportunities for me and really changed my life. I am a geek at heart so having a blogging platform that’s open source is a very big deal to me. The majority of the software I use is open source and I hope to keep it that way. Thanks again.

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By: WordPress: Matt Mullenweg sostiene le quattro libertà dell’open source https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574528 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:07:08 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574528 […] un Matt Mullenweg entusiasta, quello che scrive di libertà e free software: il creatore di WordPress ha deciso […]

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574527 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 08:10:07 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574527 In reply to Abhijeet Mukherjee (@abhijeetmk).

That’s more of a terminology difference between Open Source and Free Software that’s explained on the linked FSF page, he prefers people use the term Free Software because of the additional connotations it brings.

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By: Abhijeet Mukherjee (@abhijeetmk) https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574526 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 07:58:10 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574526 Brilliant post Matt, loved it. If not for the open-source WordPress, I wouldn’t have been here (a self-employed web publisher for 5 years now). Blogspot/blogger might have started it, but the true blogging revolution was brought by WordPress and it continues to steer it forward. Long live WordPress and long live Open Source!

P.S. I have a doubt though. I thought Stallman was against open source and says free software is different, from what I’ve read. Did he change his views later?

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By: beta https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574522 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 20:17:08 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574522 thanks for explaining the zeroth law

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574519 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 18:03:29 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574519 In reply to Matt Lee (@mattl).

I thought he still had an office there, thanks for the info. What do you think would be the most accurate way to put that sentence?

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By: Ryan Marks https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574511 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 04:19:25 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574511 In reply to Martin (IQ).

Or if it were possible to run a diff between the two!

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By: Matt Lee (@mattl) https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574508 Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:26:43 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574508 Great article!

RMS quit MIT around Thanksgiving 83 to start GNU.

I’m very happy to be a GNU developer using PHP and making my living from WordPress thirty years later.

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By: Kyle Alm https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574505 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:30:25 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574505 It’s been pretty amazing to be a part of the WordPress adventure, it’s a really amazing piece of software and it has an amazing community of support. It’s been about 5 years for me, I think 2.7 is when I got started with it.

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By: The internet as a teenager | helenjane.com https://ma.tt/2014/01/four-freedoms/#comment-574502 Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:14:50 +0000 http://ma.tt/?p=43469#comment-574502 […] independent web, one that’s developed on 4 freedoms, the one I signed on for in 1998, this independent web is a terrible/awesome sixteen year […]

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