Comments on: On with Theo / T3.gg https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/ Unlucky in Cards Tue, 08 Oct 2024 11:22:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9-alpha-60134 By: Mark Bieganowski https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-600190 Tue, 08 Oct 2024 11:22:19 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-600190 I listened up to 1.29. It seems from my limited knowledge Matt’s niceness and WPengines ruthless business acumen are at fault here. The co-lateral damage, as Theo is focusing on, is to WPengines customers who had no idea anything like this could impact them. That issue lies with WPEngine to resolve; they allowed their customers to be in that position. 

Slightly off topic but maybe some parallels. I recently had a plugin developers who were holding me to ransom over their latest plugin version. They actively stopped the old version of the plugin working unless you resubscribed. I worry that what will damage WordPress more if developers use the ransomware model.

A lot of businesses make money from the foundation WordPress has provided, if it’s demonstrable that you start to abuse that i can understand that nice people start to get legal.

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By: Mike Tiegner https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-600021 Fri, 04 Oct 2024 20:38:57 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-600021 What bothered me the most Matt was:

1. You ruined the WCUSA ending
2. You aired your dirty laundry
3. You’ve fractured the community
4. You attempted to extort WPE (no, I’m not a customer)
5. You hijacked temporarily the ACF plugin (yes, I’m a customer)
6. You adversely affected over a million WPE customers who had nothing nothing to do with any of this
7. You attempted to strong-arm a host who actually does contribute a lot to WordPress (hosting, WordCamps, LOCAL, ACF, Genesis, support WordPress customers with hosting issues, etc. etc.)

Your behavior has been perceived as unprofessional. It’s not about taking sides; it’s about building the community which you have now harmed.

I wish for you to go away and ride off into the sunset. You act as if you own our Open Source community, and guess what, you don’t Matt.

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By: Kirk https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599958 Fri, 04 Oct 2024 13:45:20 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599958 The interviewer mentions barbershops paying $5 a month to host their sites. WPEngine has never been cheap; their cheapest plan is $20 a month, and they have multiple add-ons. They are not a cheap hosting company. To get what I get on wordpress.com for $25 a month, I would have to pay at least $400 a month on WPengine. I have no skin in this game, but I looked at WPEngine many times over the twenty years I’ve had WordPress blogs, and they were always a high-priced offering. So my assumption is that they do make quite a bit of money.

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By: Linksammlung 40/2024 - onli blogging https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599877 Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:56:38 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599877 […] offen und riskant wirkte ein Interview, das er unter On with Theo / T3.gg im eigenen Blog verlinkte. Es zeichnet in meinen Augen ein recht klares Bild davon, wie Mullenweg […]

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By: Michael Cunningham https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599851 Wed, 02 Oct 2024 16:48:23 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599851 Matt, I am totally impressed with the way you handled this discussion. Not only did I see humility but a desire to mediate this case and achieve a solution to the benefit of the community. Unfortunately because of the media this is going unnoticed.

I attended my first WordCamp this year and had the privilege to be a speaker at WCUS24 and initially your approach shocked me and I felt as thought it came across “arrogant”.

Now that I have done research and based on what has been communicated thus far, I understand your motives and I stand with you on this.

It is unfortunate that WPengine customers are suffering and perhaps other hosts can provide support. Perhaps it is a bit aggressive but I totally get it.

My hope is that people hold Salt Lake to the same standard and that this is dealt this in a manner that allows WordPress to thrive.

I wish you all the best!

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By: Richard Foster https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599842 Tue, 01 Oct 2024 18:06:22 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599842 It does viewers a disservice when an interviewer places themselves centre stage .

The seating arrangement, intentional or not, was indicative of an interviewer placing themselves forward and in a self-promotional position. Facing the camera rather than the interviewee .

Theo repeatedly made the point that Matt should have handled things better . Regardless of the value of this critique, no viewer wants to have to wade through a repetition of this point – ad infinitum .

Presumably Theo thought repitition would be a good setting of the scene for his transparent and nacissistic pitching for a job as Matt’s dispute resolution consultant towards the end of the session . Delusional . Sad . Embarrasing .

Despite my concerns about the motives of the interviewer it was interesting and informative to hear Matt’s clarifications . Hopefully WPEngine will respect their customers enough to come to a reasonable settlement of this long running saga .

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By: DA https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599841 Tue, 01 Oct 2024 16:26:12 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599841 GO MATT! Silver Lake & WP Engine = Greedy investors

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By: Jonathan https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599831 Tue, 01 Oct 2024 06:56:51 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599831 Watched the whole thing. It’s still crazy to me that so many think a Private Equity Firm getting their way will do more good for the community than the guy who created and maintained the open source software. If all you cared about was money WordPress would’ve been very different today.

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By: Iqbal https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599825 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 15:38:04 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599825 Great discussion, I watched it until the end! From the discussion I understand that dialogue with honesty can clarify this rising issue. I agree that communication strategy are very much needed especially for people in leadership positions.

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By: Tom Kelly https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599822 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:58:00 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599822 Play some chess bro. More than just capturing a pawn. Think about the consequences of your actions on the end users. Walk a mile in their shoes.

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By: madebyaris https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599817 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:47:51 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599817 In reply to Dave Loodts.

As far as I know, he don’t publish podcast format.

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By: madebyaris https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599816 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:47:18 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599816 Where is the cats XD

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By: Dave Loodts https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599805 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 06:35:19 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599805 Is Theo’s interview also available as podcast? Seems like there’s isn’t one, but it would be handier to listen during a walk or drive.

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By: Peter Navajo https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599804 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 03:45:17 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599804 Matt didn’t answer the questions directly, this interview feels like a way to soften the mood without resolving anything

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By: Fwentish Aelondes https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599803 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 03:12:18 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599803 Good on you for putting yourself out there, Matt! Take care of yourself and get plenty of sleep this week. 🙂

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By: Bowo https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599800 Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:00:51 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599800 Great discussion. Love that Matt “believe discussion is the best way to resolve conflict”. Would be interesting if Lee answers his invitation to a public discussion.

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By: 继续与西奥/T3.gg - 偏执的码农 https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599794 Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:21:51 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599794 […] 详情参考 […]

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By: Matthew Cochran https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599793 Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:20:14 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599793 NGL. I love your candor, but for the sake of preserving your brands image, can you work with a team to get some language together that doesnt make you sound like such a hater? I genuinly believe in WP, but your attitude and ability to speak with such a glib attitude about something that does seem very nuanced is interesting.

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By: David McCan https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599791 Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:49:13 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599791 It was a good discussion. Thank you for the openness.

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By: andreilupu https://ma.tt/2024/09/t3/#comment-599789 Sun, 29 Sep 2024 20:39:22 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=127096#comment-599789 ThePrimeagen > Theo

Anyway, Lex needs to be next.

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