Comments on: Response to DHH https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/ Unlucky in Cards Fri, 24 Jan 2025 04:33:15 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9-alpha-60134 By: Tyler https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-603635 Fri, 24 Jan 2025 04:33:15 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-603635 In reply to Matt.

This is one of millions of opinions on this topic Matt… From my perspective, there’s no point getting involved, and your best friends/business partners should have pulled you out sooner. You’re beyond yoda status online, people are more eager to watch you crumble than win. You can’t win more than you have won, so now people tune in to watch you fall.. Here’s something I’m learning myself, I’m not perfect, a lot of EMDR/talk therapy landed in better place.. I still react, especially if my sleep or exercise if off base. Mostly, what I wanted to tell you in my last post is… When you react, no matter what the case, people will use your reaction to manipulate and control you.

When you don’t react, people can’t use it against you. Maybe you should could begin mentoring people, see that crazy inspiration in their eyes, and get back in touch with how great you are dude.

Just my humble opinion, you’re better off meditating, staying off social media, and doing what you love to do. I think you and a lot of really well established thought leaders have made your run, dominated, and you seem like you’re burned out.

Perhaps you’re beyond the point of retiring, in the zone, that’s a good thing and it’s helping many people around the world create amazing moments/experiences.

The fact that you stay is respectable but also a sign that maybe it’s time to pull a daft punk. Pass the torch or become a silent partner.

The fact that people have access to you, it’s inspiring, however at what cost. To what end?

best of luck.
Fan of yours,
Tyler

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By: Jim https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600720 Sat, 19 Oct 2024 03:22:32 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600720 A lot of stuff going on in the world. Folks catching on fire after their hospital is being bombed. And some company is using a trademark incorrectly. Lot’s of stuff. Hard to keep up.

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By: Steven Gliebe https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600678 Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:34:46 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600678 “the original version of this post was mean. I am so sorry.”

Thanks for setting an example. I know that feeling. In fact, I’ve been moderated twice this week and I’m sorry.

Starting to see your point and can why you’re going to “extremes”. Don’t agree on the listing takeover but have to give you the benefit of the doubt based on 21 years of history. I’ve made a living with WordPress for 12 years, so thank you.

Good night and good luck.

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By: On Matt, DHH and the post that was deleted. - James Giroux https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600667 Wed, 16 Oct 2024 14:27:46 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600667 […] want to publicly commend Matt for taking down his initial post. That cannot have been easy given the charged atmosphere we’re all in at the moment in […]

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600646 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:48:05 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600646 In reply to Andrew.

The lawyers are doing their jobs, but the legal system is prolonged and deliberate by design. In the meantime, we’re trying to ensure the world knows WP Engine’s behavior.

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By: Mike O'K https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600641 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:49:34 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600641 Definitely there is a bigger picture here, even bigger than WP vs. WPE. Having watched AWS scoop up open source projects like the blob, I wonder about the future of OSS, and have to agree there is a bigger question here. Certainly, I see the benefit of AWS, where you have awesome tools like ES, neatly and seamlessly configured to run on AWS, all supported by the goodness of the OSS folks.

However, I am a small contributor to a big open source library so can say I have some insight into how a creator or maintainer has to divide time between “pet project” and “actual cash flow”, even for one of the biggest, most widely used libraries on the planet.

So when I @see “Elastic and Amazon Reach Agreement on Trademark Infringement Lawsuit” on the elastic blog I’m struggling to see how ES gets any benefit. Strikes me as a Sybase / Borland scenario – anyone remember them? I thought so.

Btw, I happen to be a paying WP customer, very happy customer, thank you!

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By: Think-Talk https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600640 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:40:06 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600640 This, too, shall pass.

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By: Tyler https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600636 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:13:01 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600636 In reply to Andrew.

Agreed, Let the lawyers do their job. Let the public relationship people do their PR thing, and get back to solving problems.

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By: Matt https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600634 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:15:02 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600634 In reply to Post EconGirl.

I retract this statement, and it’s no longer in the post. But you left a comment before that so I’ll leave it up.

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By: Leo Koo https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600629 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 18:05:08 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600629 Hey Matt, Leo here. I’m the upcoming WordCamp Malaysia lead and on the organizing team for WCAsia 2025. Was a volunteer at WCAsia 2023 when I was given the chance to ask you about the future of WordPress via the open mike.

Personally, I’m thankful for your efforts in growing WordPress as an open source software. It has given thousands if not tens of thousands of people a way to earn an income and elevate themselves from poverty.

It has helped me even to go from just another developer looking for his next project (amidst the feast and famine cycle), to have a stable income which provides for my family.

I understand a lot of people are against what you do. And it frustrates you. However, perhaps the best way moving forward is to not do anything drastic about WPE and WPE related products. Or to communicate more before doing anything.

WPE’s winning the public opinion battle and long term, it doesn’t look good for both WPE and Automattic. I hope you can work something out with Lee Wittlinger.

Take care and God Bless, Matt 🙂

Leo of Leokoo.com

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By: Andrew https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600625 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 16:12:29 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600625 Have you see the interview from 60 minutes where Mike Wallace is interviewing Morgan Freeman and the topic of racism comes up? Mike Wallace asks Morgan Freeman how to stop it and Mr. Freeman’s response was as concise as it was wise, he said “Stop talking about it! I’m going to stop calling you a white man, and ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace, you know me as Morgan Freeman, let’s address each other like that.” (I paraphrase slightly.)

I’m so sorry that things have gone the way they have with WP Engine/Silver Lake. Truly unfortunate. But I think that every time you respond to one of these distractions it becomes an even bigger distraction.

If I had the opportunity to have coffee with you, I would encourage you to let these people do what they do, all they’re trying to do is take the attention off the real issue and distract people. They belittle others to try to make themselves feel like bigger people than they are. They’re playground bullies in ties and jackets.

You do so many cool things and contribute so much to the world around you (never mind the internet!) that if you never got to draw another breath, you should leave this world as one of the most satisfied people I know of for the contributions you’ve made. If you wanted to spend the rest of your life under a palm tree on a beach and never do another single thing, I would think the contentedness that comes from the contributions you’ve made should keep happy though going through your mind for a long, long, long, long, time.

Let the lawyers do their lawyering and don’t pay any of these small minds a bit of attention who can’t do anything except try to tear someone down to build themselves up. Of course that’s easier said than done, but ultimately, you’ll be the better person I think. And there are a lot of folks still in your corner!

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By: Chris Koerner https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600610 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:53:41 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600610 >If WP Engine didn’t want this to happen, they should not have published their code under the GPL or distributed it through WordPress.org’s directory.

You mean the community standard and encouraged method of distributing WordPress plugins? Where do you think Elliot should have published his plugin in, what was it, 2012? I don’t think it would have been possible for him to have predicted your actions and what would have become of it.

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By: Stefan Vetter https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600607 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:16:48 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600607 Much respect for taking this post down.

It takes courage and humility to admit you’re wrong and apologize publicly, as you did here.

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By: Chethan https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600604 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:08:31 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600604 I can’t belive how biased this people not event have sense of gratitude for what you have done to the community for last 2 decades. Wish they realise the real culprit wpengine who is playing victim card now …we stand with you matt

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By: Nina Hamblin https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600596 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:13:49 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600596 Good on you, Dude!

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By: Mark Bieganowski https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600594 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:59:06 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600594 Yes Matt
Avoid the straw men battles. No matter how personal they are becoming. I think people love the drama and will happily weigh in without facts. Conversely, I think there is enough evidence now to collate how misinformation is disseminated. Deal with WP-Engine/Silver lake in the courts and then hire a team to start filing for defamation and libel lawsuits.

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By: Timeline of the WordPress Drama - DevLog https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600588 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 10:06:16 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600588 […] Matt Mullenweg wrote a pretty harsh response to David Heinemeier Hansons’s posts (see above), only to edit the post later. (Source: Original / Matt) […]

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By: jamesdenmark https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600587 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:54:14 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600587 I understand what you going through, but I would have choosen another plan to terminate them slowly, not this one.

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By: Michael Collins https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600578 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:27:06 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600578 Let me know when you resign, you’re fired, or you’re arrested for your racketeering and extortion. In the mean time I’ll be moving all my sites off of WordPress and onto Joomla 5.

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By: Andy https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600577 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:08:23 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600577 What a tool. What goes around comes around.

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By: A WordPress Hard Fork Could Be Made Painless for Plugin/Theme Developers – Semantically Secure https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600565 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:20:21 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600565 […] to hard-fork the project onto something else) to mitigate the risk of another Mullenweg tantrum (which are in surplus this season) leading to another successful violation of community […]

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By: Peter shaw https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600562 Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:06:31 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600562 Yes you’ve proved David H is (to some extent) a hypocrite. But being a hypocrite does not make someone wrong.

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By: Jack https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600555 Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:59:34 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600555 In reply to jb510.

There are companies out there that are paying some kind of license fee to Automattic, so you know.

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By: jb510 https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600503 Mon, 14 Oct 2024 19:07:32 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600503 RailsEngine, sure.. but Rails is trademarked. You explicitly excluded WP from the trademark… so REngine would be a reasonable comparison, not RailsEngine. You still can’t seem to make a coherent argument as to how WPE is violating trademark and the entire rest of the hosting industry isn’t? Or how WPE isn’t “giving back” when dozens of other Managed WordPress hosts give back zero. I’d love to see more contribution to WP from all corners, but all I see is more and more independent contributors being turned off by you. Which means even more damaging consolidation. Soon a8c is going to be 100% of the contribution when the goal should be supporting broader contribution. I don’t know who you’re actually listening to at this point, but encourage take some time and listen… really listen far and wide.

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By: Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://ma.tt/2024/10/on-dhh/#comment-600491 Mon, 14 Oct 2024 18:53:45 +0000 https://ma.tt/?p=128140#comment-600491 I second the idea that software trademarks should be tied to a foundation rather than individuals! I believe Matt, in this case was responding, in casual style, on his blog to specific individuals.

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